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Is carding relevant in 2025?
Hello everyone. Today we are going to discuss a very common question that many beginners are tormented by, if you look around the forums and in my personal messages. People often ask whether it is relevant to enter the topic now and what deposit you need to have with you. Moreover, this question is asked by people who are mostly undecided about which of the many existing directions in carding they want to master.
Yes, the direction here is an unplowed field, and if one requires a more serious deposit to enter, then the other is smaller, but in return requires more perseverance and concentration from you, plus it takes more time for tests before your first profit. From which we immediately conclude that the main mistake of a beginner is spraying on everything at once. No, forget it. You will simply spend all your hard-earned money to the last cent if you decide to start your path from several directions at once.
So the first thing you need to do is decide on it. What will it be? Working with CC, working with logs, working with BA, working on loans, and so on. Have you chosen a direction? Great. We begin to uncontrollably absorb all the information available to us in this direction, that is, we dig what we can. And then, when the moment of practice comes, when you are ready to get down to business, the topic of finances begins to unfold, namely how much you need to have for success. Well, when I started, a thousand bucks was enough for my first topic. I started not alone then, but with a partner, and now the partner has invested 3 thousand bucks on tests on the same topic. So that you understand, I do not want to confuse you in any way, I just want to convey that there is nothing universal. After all, I cannot tell you a number and say that everyone will have enough of conditional $300-400 for stuff carding or conditional thousands of dollars to work with BA.
It's just that at the moment of spending money on tests, knowledge reaches someone very quickly, and the person is already sitting and steadily chopping cabbage. And give someone 10 thousand bucks, well, there is no head on their shoulders. The money will simply go to tests, and nothing will be deposited in the head. But I will tell you this. In all my practice, I have not met literally a single person who would not spare time for study and practice, stuffing himself with cones in the process and with incredible diligence and purposefulness would move forward, so that such a person would be left without money and profit in the topic in which he invests so much Friends, this simply does not happen Such an approach will make you rich one way or another It's just a matter of time, you need to understand Sooner or later, every person faces a black streak of circumstances, But it always passes I say this as a person who himself has been through a lot.
I myself have had my share of failures, and a whole manual wouldn't be enough to tell you about them all, but that's what experience is, and that experience is worth more than money, I suppose. One way or another, many are now burying the topic, saying it's dead and long dead.
As funny as it is, I had to read the same thing 5 years ago, and even earlier, that is, people seemed to have always insisted that the topic is dead, even in the so-called golden age of carding, when CC were everywhere, valid, and cost $ 2, and fought for at least 2k bucks in any shop. And even then there were smart guys who were disappointed in the topic. Personally, I read their indignation on the forums of those times, such as Mazafaka and CarderPlanet. But is there or has there ever been a real reason to believe that the topic is dead or why do people often bury it.
In fact, even the most profitable topic in the world dies with losers. Yes, our topic has become more complicated. Both the entry and the quality of the material have become more complicated. Constantly disappointing. Yes, on every corner there are rippers and generated CCs that have either already been sold or uploaded to several CC shops. And yes, fraud tightens the screws more and more every year.
But why would someone who has been working for a long time just smile, driving away this depressing stream of thoughts? And the whole point is that Fraud has been complicating the work from the very beginning of the topic. Freebies were only at the beginning. This is obvious to those who have been working for a long time and have lived through the ups and downs of this sphere. They understand that sooner or later any templates in work that we all get used to are destroyed, and at one point, deprived of convenience, we are forced to change the approach radically.
This is what various whiners forget, burying the topic. We also do not stand still and develop together with anti-fraud systems. Yes, they tighten the screws, but we still find workarounds and bugs. That is why we are still alive, and it is too early for us to die. Now, more than ever, there are many financial firms, VCC, banks and other stuff, as well as variability in payment methods.
The abundance of anti-detect browsers and other means of mimicry for a cardholder is also amazing. Now it is a reality, and ten years ago no one even dreamed of it, because everyone stupidly worked from under socks and did not bother. It is now easier than ever to pass verification in some office, there are tons of services, and the verification itself costs pennies. I am not even talking about the fact that you can pass it yourself, because its cost is quite low, but you need to show a bit of ingenuity.
Many beginners now either sharply become disappointed in the topic because of its complexity, or try to find easy ways. And here they are met with open arms by trainers who sell them such crap, hello WWH, that their hands drop completely. After all, when a person simply reads a manual designed to teach him something, he does not come into contact with practice, which is 80% of success.
That is, a person is not led from A to Z, as it should be, but simply given a manual, the theory of fishing. But for some reason they do not explain how to hold the rod and hook correctly. Because almost all manuals for money are just empty talk. Moreover, anyone who sells manuals and does not provide you with support after the sale is a bullshit and has no valuable knowledge. That is why he is not able to answer a single question from his own manual on specifics.
I often receive messages in private messages, like, what do I think about this or that person who teaches the topic. My answer was always unambiguous. Many are just scams, others, without embarrassment, sell leaked manuals in the public domain. As for the third, I personally decided to check. I asked the simplest questions on the BA material, but in response I received frost. From which I concluded that this character had no experience.
Along with this, many people ask about free training. Will there be and so on. Of course, I have repeatedly thought about launching my own training in my area, but for various reasons I still have not found the need to create it, despite the fact that I receive such requests quite often, and I see that people are interested in it. The thing is. I understand perfectly well with what responsibility one should approach the creation of training, if we are talking about its quality and subsequent conversion into monetary profit.
And since I do not intend to make slag, I need to devote considerable time to creating an understandable and at the same time meaningful structure. All this requires investment of time and desire. In any case, if I take it on, I will let you know. Although, if requests for training stop, most likely I will just forget about it, and that's it.
In general, the message is as simple as two times two, we don’t listen to whiners, we work as we have been working, and remember that themes only die among losers, themes don’t stop living among goal-oriented and money-hungry people, approaches change, the theme is eternal, and I declare that it will die exactly when the US banking system dies. I’m not saying goodbye.
Hello everyone. Today we are going to discuss a very common question that many beginners are tormented by, if you look around the forums and in my personal messages. People often ask whether it is relevant to enter the topic now and what deposit you need to have with you. Moreover, this question is asked by people who are mostly undecided about which of the many existing directions in carding they want to master.
Yes, the direction here is an unplowed field, and if one requires a more serious deposit to enter, then the other is smaller, but in return requires more perseverance and concentration from you, plus it takes more time for tests before your first profit. From which we immediately conclude that the main mistake of a beginner is spraying on everything at once. No, forget it. You will simply spend all your hard-earned money to the last cent if you decide to start your path from several directions at once.
So the first thing you need to do is decide on it. What will it be? Working with CC, working with logs, working with BA, working on loans, and so on. Have you chosen a direction? Great. We begin to uncontrollably absorb all the information available to us in this direction, that is, we dig what we can. And then, when the moment of practice comes, when you are ready to get down to business, the topic of finances begins to unfold, namely how much you need to have for success. Well, when I started, a thousand bucks was enough for my first topic. I started not alone then, but with a partner, and now the partner has invested 3 thousand bucks on tests on the same topic. So that you understand, I do not want to confuse you in any way, I just want to convey that there is nothing universal. After all, I cannot tell you a number and say that everyone will have enough of conditional $300-400 for stuff carding or conditional thousands of dollars to work with BA.
It's just that at the moment of spending money on tests, knowledge reaches someone very quickly, and the person is already sitting and steadily chopping cabbage. And give someone 10 thousand bucks, well, there is no head on their shoulders. The money will simply go to tests, and nothing will be deposited in the head. But I will tell you this. In all my practice, I have not met literally a single person who would not spare time for study and practice, stuffing himself with cones in the process and with incredible diligence and purposefulness would move forward, so that such a person would be left without money and profit in the topic in which he invests so much Friends, this simply does not happen Such an approach will make you rich one way or another It's just a matter of time, you need to understand Sooner or later, every person faces a black streak of circumstances, But it always passes I say this as a person who himself has been through a lot.
I myself have had my share of failures, and a whole manual wouldn't be enough to tell you about them all, but that's what experience is, and that experience is worth more than money, I suppose. One way or another, many are now burying the topic, saying it's dead and long dead.
As funny as it is, I had to read the same thing 5 years ago, and even earlier, that is, people seemed to have always insisted that the topic is dead, even in the so-called golden age of carding, when CC were everywhere, valid, and cost $ 2, and fought for at least 2k bucks in any shop. And even then there were smart guys who were disappointed in the topic. Personally, I read their indignation on the forums of those times, such as Mazafaka and CarderPlanet. But is there or has there ever been a real reason to believe that the topic is dead or why do people often bury it.
In fact, even the most profitable topic in the world dies with losers. Yes, our topic has become more complicated. Both the entry and the quality of the material have become more complicated. Constantly disappointing. Yes, on every corner there are rippers and generated CCs that have either already been sold or uploaded to several CC shops. And yes, fraud tightens the screws more and more every year.
But why would someone who has been working for a long time just smile, driving away this depressing stream of thoughts? And the whole point is that Fraud has been complicating the work from the very beginning of the topic. Freebies were only at the beginning. This is obvious to those who have been working for a long time and have lived through the ups and downs of this sphere. They understand that sooner or later any templates in work that we all get used to are destroyed, and at one point, deprived of convenience, we are forced to change the approach radically.
This is what various whiners forget, burying the topic. We also do not stand still and develop together with anti-fraud systems. Yes, they tighten the screws, but we still find workarounds and bugs. That is why we are still alive, and it is too early for us to die. Now, more than ever, there are many financial firms, VCC, banks and other stuff, as well as variability in payment methods.
The abundance of anti-detect browsers and other means of mimicry for a cardholder is also amazing. Now it is a reality, and ten years ago no one even dreamed of it, because everyone stupidly worked from under socks and did not bother. It is now easier than ever to pass verification in some office, there are tons of services, and the verification itself costs pennies. I am not even talking about the fact that you can pass it yourself, because its cost is quite low, but you need to show a bit of ingenuity.
Many beginners now either sharply become disappointed in the topic because of its complexity, or try to find easy ways. And here they are met with open arms by trainers who sell them such crap, hello WWH, that their hands drop completely. After all, when a person simply reads a manual designed to teach him something, he does not come into contact with practice, which is 80% of success.
That is, a person is not led from A to Z, as it should be, but simply given a manual, the theory of fishing. But for some reason they do not explain how to hold the rod and hook correctly. Because almost all manuals for money are just empty talk. Moreover, anyone who sells manuals and does not provide you with support after the sale is a bullshit and has no valuable knowledge. That is why he is not able to answer a single question from his own manual on specifics.
I often receive messages in private messages, like, what do I think about this or that person who teaches the topic. My answer was always unambiguous. Many are just scams, others, without embarrassment, sell leaked manuals in the public domain. As for the third, I personally decided to check. I asked the simplest questions on the BA material, but in response I received frost. From which I concluded that this character had no experience.
Along with this, many people ask about free training. Will there be and so on. Of course, I have repeatedly thought about launching my own training in my area, but for various reasons I still have not found the need to create it, despite the fact that I receive such requests quite often, and I see that people are interested in it. The thing is. I understand perfectly well with what responsibility one should approach the creation of training, if we are talking about its quality and subsequent conversion into monetary profit.
And since I do not intend to make slag, I need to devote considerable time to creating an understandable and at the same time meaningful structure. All this requires investment of time and desire. In any case, if I take it on, I will let you know. Although, if requests for training stop, most likely I will just forget about it, and that's it.
In general, the message is as simple as two times two, we don’t listen to whiners, we work as we have been working, and remember that themes only die among losers, themes don’t stop living among goal-oriented and money-hungry people, approaches change, the theme is eternal, and I declare that it will die exactly when the US banking system dies. I’m not saying goodbye.
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Introduction: The State of Carding in Q4 2025
Part 1: Why Carding Still Works (The Hidden Gaps)
1. Regulatory Exemptions Create Soft Targets
Part 2: Why 95% of Newcomers Fail Within Days
Field observation: A beginner who skips excursions has a <3% success rate** on even the softest merchants. One who warms properly: **>60%.
Part 3: The Minimal Viable Setup (MVS) for 2025
Critical: Match proxy country to your BIN (e.g., BIN 414720 → Germany → de proxy)
Total startup cost: ~$150–$250. Do not proceed with less.
Part 4: A Realistic 30-Day Onboarding Plan
Expected outcome: $10–$30/day net profit by Day 30, with zero legal or forensic exposure.
Part 5: Is Training Worth It? How to Learn Right
Avoid “training” that promises:
The free lecture series on carder.market (2024–2025) is among the most accurate public resources — if you study it like a textbook, not a cheat sheet.
Part 6: The Mindset Shift Required for 2025
Final Verdict: Should You Start in 2025?
The Bottom Line
