EBAY SCAM
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Scam method on eBay
Keep a nice ebay scam scheme. Is it possible to deceive someone on this site?! - You ask. I will answer - you can, as long as you can. Roll up your sleeves and get to work.
But first preparation:
1. We need a left SIM card or virtial number, which will not be issued to our data.
2. We buy a Dedicated Server (RDP), clean socks, tunnel, or set up a virtual machine well. Almost like carding, but no, scam)) We tighten security on our main system.
Let's get started!
1. Register PayPal, for this you need a virtual card. We attach the card to your paypal account.
2. We put $ 1-2 on the virtual card for verification.
3. Register on ebay and link our paypal account to it.
4. We give a few days for the account to lie down. But in principle, this is not necessary.
We are looking for photos on Avito and other sites for our future ads, we need something that sells well: smartphones, laptops, cameras and other electronics. On ebay, the maximum amount is $ 500. It is important to look for those photos where the logo is not visible.
Next, we put our goods up for auction, write a description, add a photo, the duration of the auction and indicate that delivery lasts 30 days.
We need our paypal account to be blocked, so we don't need to log in to it within 10 days and it will go banned. Methods to speed up this process are not known to me. We register another account to receive funds. As a result, we should have one blocked account, and the second working.
In addition, customers will write to you in a personal and ask questions, answer them without much zeal and perseverance, you do not need to jump out of your panties and immediately ask for payment. After the auction is over, the winner will want to pay for the item, but he will not be able to do so. our paypal account will be blocked. Questions and attempts to find a solution to the problem will begin, and here you offer the buyer to purchase the goods outside the auction, i.e. pay directly to your paypal.
To objections and so on - we answer that this is a common practice, fraud is impossible, because you can always get your money back through Paypal. Turn on the fool, play for time. If the buyer is new and he had no previous experience of buying on ebay, or he bought a little, most likely he will behave. In practice, 2-3 out of 10 people transfer money, if the amount is $ 200-300, count the profit yourself.
We are writing not to one person, but to everyone who participated in the auction. For example, the winner refused to buy after winning the auction, I urgently need to sell, I will drop the price by 20%, will you take it?))
Divorce schemes on eBay
Now it's time to compare what the situation is with eBay.
Method eBay + PayPal scam
I had such a case. I bought a used motherboard on eBay for my Dell XPS laptop which had an i5 processor and 8GB of RAM. For work, I began to lack performance and I risked ordering a board with an i7 processor and 16 GB of RAM from the USA.
Be very careful when paying for the item. I made payment with my Tinkov USD card. When paying, I chose the currency USD. However, after payment, to my utter surprise, I saw that the write-off was almost $ 20 more than it was indicated on eBay. It turns out that in order to indicate that the money needs to be debited on the card in USD, you need to CALL! to eBay or PayPal technical support (I don't remember the details, but the owners of both companies are the same) and tell them to withdraw money in the specified currency. Otherwise, they withdraw money in the currency of the card issuing bank. Even if the card is currency. A double conversion occurs, which in my case amounted to more than $ 20.
PayPal technical support refused to return money for an incorrect transaction. Type only through the return of goods to eBay, and it has already been sent to the aggregator in the United States for shipment to your country.
The return from the aggregator to the seller cost money, so there was almost no economic sense in the procedure. I was almost desperate to get the money back, but just in case I wrote to bank tech support. The guys turned out to be much more customer-oriented than the vaunted American offices of eBay / PayPal, and after I confirmed the receipt of the goods, they somehow returned $ 20 for an incorrect transaction. By the way, through them it is not a problem to withdraw money from the card account of almost any bank, including a Western one, without a commission.
Cheating eBay sellers
I changed the board on the laptop, everything worked fine. Then I decided to try to sell a work board with an i5 processor. At eBay, the market is limited, so buyers have not been in for a long time. Posted information on eBay.
Several buyers offered to purchase at dumping prices, so there was no point in shipping. Finally, a Spaniard appeared with a lot of positive reviews. I carefully studied the history of his purchases, we agreed on a price, made a small discount and agreed to send. Sending the motherboard via EMS (Russian Post) to Spain with full cost insurance cost around $ 25. In principle, you can not insure and then less than $ 15.
Then the story unfolded sadly. As soon as I received the notification of the delivery of the payment to the buyer, very quickly a request for a refund came from him due to a non-working item. Although I am 99.9% sure that I could not damage it when replacing the board. The board was in an electrostatic bag all the time, I carefully packed it in a foam box and in a double cardboard box, so that during transportation they could not damage it either.
Then I started asking him to record a video of exactly how the board does not work. He never sent me the video. To my complaint to eBay that there was no evidence that the board was out of order, eBay technical support replied that they did not have the ability to post videos in the mail system through which the buyer and seller corresponded, so they could not demand it from the buyer. In general, eBay technical support does not help to resolve the conflict AT ALL. You can not hope for them. In a conflict situation, the buyer is always right.
I'm 99.9% sure the buyer cheated knowing that eBay's support team would not understand the conflict. It was pointless to send the goods back to me. Once again, pay about $ 30 for delivery, and they can send another fee.
Before sending, I took a photo of the serial number from the board, but given the lack of response from eBay technical support, the chances that I would be compensated for the cost of the product in the event of its substitution are small.
In general, I agreed to leave the product with the buyer. Fortunately, the fraudster went to a meeting and agreed to deduct the shipping cost from the refund amount. This indirectly confirms the fact that it was a scam.
eBay beats a certain percentage from the seller for a sale. And it does it somehow without warning, well, or it was somewhere, but the interface on eBay is so intense, and they often make warnings so implicitly that you have to be VERY careful. In general, for the failed transaction, eBay with PayPal debited $ 20 from me and, moreover, put $ 20 on a regular payment.
Perhaps this is some kind of fixed price list for sellers, information about which I did not see. Type once sold and you are immediately entered into the list of sellers. In general, after a showdown with PayPal technical support, they returned me $ 20 back to PayPal, and there, in my PayPal account, I found how to cancel a regular payment.
Fortunately, before writing off the money, eBay sent me an invoice, after which I began to figure out why I had to pay them another $ 20 for a failed transaction. So you need to be very careful with these guys. Rotten office, that eBay, that PayPal. You can only use them by force.
Scammers on eBay (story of one scam)
Disclaimer: the article is not quite suitable for Habr and it is not entirely clear in which hub to place it, the article is also not a complaint, I think it will be useful for the community to know how you can lose money when selling computer hardware on eBay.
A week ago, a friend of mine approached me with a request for advice, he was selling his old hardware on eBay and was faced with cheating on the part of the buyer.
A used Intel Core i7-4790K processor was put up for sale, the price was set at the average on eBay. The lot was displayed as usual, a photograph of the processor with a serial number and an indication that the processor was in use, without any complete set.
The processor quickly found a buyer from Canada, with an eBay account since 2008 and 100% positive feedback on a large number of purchases.
After a successful money transfer, my friend went to the post office, sent the processor at his own expense (he decided to make the delivery free). The package arrived in 10 days, the buyer received it and even left a short review - "Great!" and five stars. It would seem that everything is fine and you can celebrate the successful disposal of the old piece of iron, but no.
A few days after receiving the parcel, the buyer opens a "Return request" with the following complaint: "Everything is fine, only the processor that was sent to me does not match the description in the lot, I bought an Intel Core i7-4790K, but received an Intel Core i5-4690K" ... To which my friend naturally replies that this cannot be, he personally packed the parcel himself and is absolutely sure that he sent what was announced (and he never had any i5s).
At the same time, eBay offered three options to choose from, full refund, partial refund and refund with the return of the lot at the expense of the seller. The partial refund option involved eBay support intervention. An acquaintance offered a $ 1 refund to draw support attention to the request, with the text that the buyer is trying to deceive the seller.
The buyer refused to return and the case went to the technical support of eBay. From which my friend received the answer that he has 4 days to organize the return of the lot at his own expense (pay the buyer the cost of sending to his PayPal account). I think it's understandable that in this case the buyer would simply return the i5-4690K at the expense of the seller. Naturally, technical support was given a detailed answer with a description of the situation. But, technical support in this case was completely on the buyer's side. After another stereotyped answer about the return of the lot, a friend decided to just stop wasting his nerves and made a return without sending the lot back.
The buyer got a free upgrade, got their money back and stayed with their old processor.
After a quick googling and reading cheating forums on eBay, it turned out that this is a common practice.
The scheme is simple:
If anyone has encountered a similar problem, please write about your experience and how you solved these problems.
Keep a nice ebay scam scheme. Is it possible to deceive someone on this site?! - You ask. I will answer - you can, as long as you can. Roll up your sleeves and get to work.
But first preparation:
1. We need a left SIM card or virtial number, which will not be issued to our data.
2. We buy a Dedicated Server (RDP), clean socks, tunnel, or set up a virtual machine well. Almost like carding, but no, scam)) We tighten security on our main system.
Let's get started!
1. Register PayPal, for this you need a virtual card. We attach the card to your paypal account.
2. We put $ 1-2 on the virtual card for verification.
3. Register on ebay and link our paypal account to it.
4. We give a few days for the account to lie down. But in principle, this is not necessary.
We are looking for photos on Avito and other sites for our future ads, we need something that sells well: smartphones, laptops, cameras and other electronics. On ebay, the maximum amount is $ 500. It is important to look for those photos where the logo is not visible.
Next, we put our goods up for auction, write a description, add a photo, the duration of the auction and indicate that delivery lasts 30 days.
We need our paypal account to be blocked, so we don't need to log in to it within 10 days and it will go banned. Methods to speed up this process are not known to me. We register another account to receive funds. As a result, we should have one blocked account, and the second working.
In addition, customers will write to you in a personal and ask questions, answer them without much zeal and perseverance, you do not need to jump out of your panties and immediately ask for payment. After the auction is over, the winner will want to pay for the item, but he will not be able to do so. our paypal account will be blocked. Questions and attempts to find a solution to the problem will begin, and here you offer the buyer to purchase the goods outside the auction, i.e. pay directly to your paypal.
To objections and so on - we answer that this is a common practice, fraud is impossible, because you can always get your money back through Paypal. Turn on the fool, play for time. If the buyer is new and he had no previous experience of buying on ebay, or he bought a little, most likely he will behave. In practice, 2-3 out of 10 people transfer money, if the amount is $ 200-300, count the profit yourself.
We are writing not to one person, but to everyone who participated in the auction. For example, the winner refused to buy after winning the auction, I urgently need to sell, I will drop the price by 20%, will you take it?))
Divorce schemes on eBay
Now it's time to compare what the situation is with eBay.
Method eBay + PayPal scam
I had such a case. I bought a used motherboard on eBay for my Dell XPS laptop which had an i5 processor and 8GB of RAM. For work, I began to lack performance and I risked ordering a board with an i7 processor and 16 GB of RAM from the USA.
Be very careful when paying for the item. I made payment with my Tinkov USD card. When paying, I chose the currency USD. However, after payment, to my utter surprise, I saw that the write-off was almost $ 20 more than it was indicated on eBay. It turns out that in order to indicate that the money needs to be debited on the card in USD, you need to CALL! to eBay or PayPal technical support (I don't remember the details, but the owners of both companies are the same) and tell them to withdraw money in the specified currency. Otherwise, they withdraw money in the currency of the card issuing bank. Even if the card is currency. A double conversion occurs, which in my case amounted to more than $ 20.
PayPal technical support refused to return money for an incorrect transaction. Type only through the return of goods to eBay, and it has already been sent to the aggregator in the United States for shipment to your country.
The return from the aggregator to the seller cost money, so there was almost no economic sense in the procedure. I was almost desperate to get the money back, but just in case I wrote to bank tech support. The guys turned out to be much more customer-oriented than the vaunted American offices of eBay / PayPal, and after I confirmed the receipt of the goods, they somehow returned $ 20 for an incorrect transaction. By the way, through them it is not a problem to withdraw money from the card account of almost any bank, including a Western one, without a commission.
Cheating eBay sellers
I changed the board on the laptop, everything worked fine. Then I decided to try to sell a work board with an i5 processor. At eBay, the market is limited, so buyers have not been in for a long time. Posted information on eBay.
Several buyers offered to purchase at dumping prices, so there was no point in shipping. Finally, a Spaniard appeared with a lot of positive reviews. I carefully studied the history of his purchases, we agreed on a price, made a small discount and agreed to send. Sending the motherboard via EMS (Russian Post) to Spain with full cost insurance cost around $ 25. In principle, you can not insure and then less than $ 15.
Then the story unfolded sadly. As soon as I received the notification of the delivery of the payment to the buyer, very quickly a request for a refund came from him due to a non-working item. Although I am 99.9% sure that I could not damage it when replacing the board. The board was in an electrostatic bag all the time, I carefully packed it in a foam box and in a double cardboard box, so that during transportation they could not damage it either.
Then I started asking him to record a video of exactly how the board does not work. He never sent me the video. To my complaint to eBay that there was no evidence that the board was out of order, eBay technical support replied that they did not have the ability to post videos in the mail system through which the buyer and seller corresponded, so they could not demand it from the buyer. In general, eBay technical support does not help to resolve the conflict AT ALL. You can not hope for them. In a conflict situation, the buyer is always right.
I'm 99.9% sure the buyer cheated knowing that eBay's support team would not understand the conflict. It was pointless to send the goods back to me. Once again, pay about $ 30 for delivery, and they can send another fee.
Before sending, I took a photo of the serial number from the board, but given the lack of response from eBay technical support, the chances that I would be compensated for the cost of the product in the event of its substitution are small.
In general, I agreed to leave the product with the buyer. Fortunately, the fraudster went to a meeting and agreed to deduct the shipping cost from the refund amount. This indirectly confirms the fact that it was a scam.
eBay beats a certain percentage from the seller for a sale. And it does it somehow without warning, well, or it was somewhere, but the interface on eBay is so intense, and they often make warnings so implicitly that you have to be VERY careful. In general, for the failed transaction, eBay with PayPal debited $ 20 from me and, moreover, put $ 20 on a regular payment.
Perhaps this is some kind of fixed price list for sellers, information about which I did not see. Type once sold and you are immediately entered into the list of sellers. In general, after a showdown with PayPal technical support, they returned me $ 20 back to PayPal, and there, in my PayPal account, I found how to cancel a regular payment.
Fortunately, before writing off the money, eBay sent me an invoice, after which I began to figure out why I had to pay them another $ 20 for a failed transaction. So you need to be very careful with these guys. Rotten office, that eBay, that PayPal. You can only use them by force.
Scammers on eBay (story of one scam)
Disclaimer: the article is not quite suitable for Habr and it is not entirely clear in which hub to place it, the article is also not a complaint, I think it will be useful for the community to know how you can lose money when selling computer hardware on eBay.
A week ago, a friend of mine approached me with a request for advice, he was selling his old hardware on eBay and was faced with cheating on the part of the buyer.
A used Intel Core i7-4790K processor was put up for sale, the price was set at the average on eBay. The lot was displayed as usual, a photograph of the processor with a serial number and an indication that the processor was in use, without any complete set.
The processor quickly found a buyer from Canada, with an eBay account since 2008 and 100% positive feedback on a large number of purchases.
After a successful money transfer, my friend went to the post office, sent the processor at his own expense (he decided to make the delivery free). The package arrived in 10 days, the buyer received it and even left a short review - "Great!" and five stars. It would seem that everything is fine and you can celebrate the successful disposal of the old piece of iron, but no.
A few days after receiving the parcel, the buyer opens a "Return request" with the following complaint: "Everything is fine, only the processor that was sent to me does not match the description in the lot, I bought an Intel Core i7-4790K, but received an Intel Core i5-4690K" ... To which my friend naturally replies that this cannot be, he personally packed the parcel himself and is absolutely sure that he sent what was announced (and he never had any i5s).
At the same time, eBay offered three options to choose from, full refund, partial refund and refund with the return of the lot at the expense of the seller. The partial refund option involved eBay support intervention. An acquaintance offered a $ 1 refund to draw support attention to the request, with the text that the buyer is trying to deceive the seller.
The buyer refused to return and the case went to the technical support of eBay. From which my friend received the answer that he has 4 days to organize the return of the lot at his own expense (pay the buyer the cost of sending to his PayPal account). I think it's understandable that in this case the buyer would simply return the i5-4690K at the expense of the seller. Naturally, technical support was given a detailed answer with a description of the situation. But, technical support in this case was completely on the buyer's side. After another stereotyped answer about the return of the lot, a friend decided to just stop wasting his nerves and made a return without sending the lot back.
The buyer got a free upgrade, got their money back and stayed with their old processor.
After a quick googling and reading cheating forums on eBay, it turned out that this is a common practice.
The scheme is simple:
- An account with positive reviews that has been active for a long time is bought, or these reviews are collected for a large number of purchases for 1-2 dollars.
- Used iron is bought from the account, after receiving the parcel, a refund is requested. If a return is requested for a lot, the seller is sent something other than what he sold. Accounts are banned after some time after several complaints, but since there are no problems to create / buy new accounts, the scheme lives on.
If anyone has encountered a similar problem, please write about your experience and how you solved these problems.
